That's the beauty/irony of mind control.
Hopefully what you said will get her thinking, esp coz you said it in a nice gentle way.
my daughter was here last night, she asked if i knew about john travoltas son dying.
i said yes, her reply was... scientology wouldn't let him take medicine and thats what killed him.
i said, well actually, the news said he was taking meds but they no longer were working for him.
That's the beauty/irony of mind control.
Hopefully what you said will get her thinking, esp coz you said it in a nice gentle way.
i suspect a few witnesses were not "straight" but didn't act on their sexual preferences.. i knew one up and coming bethelite who was approached by the bethel heavies and talked to about his "effeminate mannerisms" and was pretty much told that he could become a more prominent menmber of the bethel family if he "became more masculine looking" and preferably found a bethel sister to marry.
he followed the counsel and was thereafter a regular designated bethel speaker at district conventions.
interestingly, all of his bethel buddies thought the whole scenario was a hoot, knowing that he was really an effeminate man suddenly now looking very hetero..
I have my suspicions about a few. The only one I know of who was definately gay went to get help for his sexual leanings and was promptly reproved for it! Shortly afterwards he got DF even though he didn't act on his tendancies til after he was out.
Of course we only learned all this after the fact and after we'd cut him out of our lives for a few years. He was such a good friend so I'm glad we're back in contact now.
my mom told me about a sister in her hall that came in on crutches to the meeting sunday.
my mom asked her what happened and she said that thursday night when she was on her way out the door to the kh, that two demons attacked her.
they knocked her to the ground and one held her down while the other one jumped on her leg and broke it .
Is she one of the anointed? Perhaps Satan's cronies are trying to take the "remnant" out individually now!
today was the first of the two parter series on browbeating the inactive to get back to the meetings.. my other half who has been inactive for a short while received an email from a "friend" who's still in, acknowledging it's been a while since they last made contact and could they stop by to see how we're doing?.
the moment of truth - friends who ignore you and make no effort to contact you when you leave suddenly get a guilt trip over an article in the watchtower.. anyone else here had their door bell rung, received a phone call or email from a "concerned" friend due to this study article, or is it still early days?.
Hubby Gladring had made a note of the date of this WT study when the mag came out back in back in Oct/Nov. We were expecting a few phonecalls, txt messages and even a house call or two. So far we've had one txt message. Period. Can u feel the love?!!
So I've decided to use reverse pschology! I've contacted some JWs I would have consider to be friends once upon a time. Just a short, "Hi how are you? haven't seen you in a while." - the kinda junk I'd expect from them. No reply so far. Guess I've been "marked".
Oh well!
it appears that the watchtower teaches that the 1000 year reign starts after armageddon, which makes sense.
(revelation 20:6) .
.happy and holy is anyone having part in the first resurrection; over these the second death has no authority, but they will be priests of god and of the christ, and will rule as kings with him for the thousand years.
Good question! I'd never thought of that one before.
Of course, like the other poster said, there is no straight answer to this but what a brain teaser to pose to my jw friends and family. It'd be very interesting to see how they square that one up!
i still get copies of all the kms and mags - just for a giggle really.
oh and to look out for noo light of course!.
i was browsing thru the march 15 2009 yesterday and came across something that was noo to me.
I had that thought but then isn't that a bit pointless? I mean, 1914 is wrong coz of 607 being wrong and a quick google or a look on the British History Museum's website would prove that.
But it would be fun to think that there's an apostate writing the material again. Hopefully there'll be more "corrections" in future issues.
i still get copies of all the kms and mags - just for a giggle really.
oh and to look out for noo light of course!.
i was browsing thru the march 15 2009 yesterday and came across something that was noo to me.
I still get copies of all the KMs and mags - just for a giggle really. Oh and to look out for noo light of course!
I was browsing thru the March 15 2009 yesterday and came across something that was noo to me. The WT study article on page 15-19 is entitled "Be Vigilant". Its basically more last days doom and gloom do-more-or-you'll-die crap but a sentence in par 4 caught my eye. I'll quote the whole paragraph to put it in perspective...
"People in general are under Satan's domination, and they have not been watchful as to the meaning of world events. They do not discern Christ's presence in Kingdom power. But Christ's true followers have been vigilant and have discerned the real meaning of what has happened in the past century. Since 1925, Jehovah's Witnesses have recognized that World War I and the events that followed amount to sure evidence that Christ's presence in heavenly Kingdom power began in 1914. Thus the last days of this wicked system of things under Satan had started."
This surprised me a lot as it is in stark contrast to their previous declarations of prophecy which, by definition, means foretelling the events prior to occuring, not 11 years after the fact!
Quote:
*** w81 2/15 p. 10 Insight on the News ***
Yet, decades before that year arrived, dedicated students of Bible prophecy were able to identify 1914 as a climactic turning point.
Quote:
*** w98 9/15 p. 15 par. 1 Waiting in “Eager Expectation” ***
Similarly, a prophecy providentially caused sincere 19th-century Bible students to be in expectation. By linking the “seven times” of Daniel 4:25 with “the times of the Gentiles,” they anticipated that Christ would receive Kingdom power in 1914.
Quote:
*** kc chap. 14 p. 137 par. 27 The King Reigns! ***
Counting from October 607 B.C.E., the “seven times” of 2,520 years bring us down to early October 1914 C.E., when, as we have already seen, Jesus’ great prophecy on “the conclusion of the system of things” started to be fulfilled. Reliable information in God’s Word is the basis for this conclusion, which the Watchtower magazine has been championing now for more than 100 years.
Thoughts anyone?
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it's my birthday!
we gonna party like its my birthday!.
i got a tiny cake with 2 candles in it and a card and pressie from my hubby this morning.
It's my birthday! We gonna party like its my birthday!
I got a tiny cake with 2 candles in it and a card and pressie from my hubby this morning. LOL First time since i was about 6 years old. Oh its fun being out!
i've not been on any jw sites for the last little while and am trying to catch up a bit.
can anyone fill me in briefly on what's been going on?
any major (or minor!
Thanks Baba. That's actually where i posted the original.
i've not been on any jw sites for the last little while and am trying to catch up a bit.
can anyone fill me in briefly on what's been going on?
any major (or minor!
Same olde same olde so Homerovah!